It’s hard to picture anyone portraying the beloved Jack Pearson on “This Is Us” more perfectly than Milo Ventimiglia.

But in an interview with Freida Pinto as part of Variety’s “Actors on Actors” series, he revealed that he wasn’t producers and directors’ first choice for the role.

“They wanted somebody completely different,” he said. “I walked in with my beard and my long hair and set my motorcycle helmet down and they went, ‘Who is this guy?'”

The interview will air in its entirety on Variety’s “Actors on Actors” Season 6, presented by Shutterstock, which premieres June 13 on PBS SoCal.