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“Game of Thrones'” stunt coordinator Rowley Irlam wants the show’s action scenes to look like nothing we’ve seen before.

“I’m always looking for the WTF moments,” Irlam told Variety for this episode of Artisans presented by HBO. He noted that the Battle of Winterfell — the major episode in the final season that staged the fight between the living and the dead — was unprecedented in that no one has shot that long of a battle scene at night before. 

He broke down a short scene in the episode, in which Kit Harington’s Jon Snow heads through a tunnel as White Walkers fall down on him. “That probably takes 10 seconds of the episode, but that took probably two weeks of work prep, rehearse, design that particular segment,” he said.

He called stunt people a “massive creative force,” and as stunt coordinator, he has significant creative impact on the construction of scenes. “Often I’ll get a script that says ‘The Hound and the Mountain will meet and what follows is a feat of fight choreography produced by Rowley Irlam and his team,'” he said.