“The People v. O.J. Simpson: American Crime Story” and “Black-ish” don’t beat around the bush: both shows tackle race head-on.

Courtney B. Vance of “The People v. O.J. Simpson” and Tracee Ellis Ross of “Black-ish” talked the importance of portraying racial issues on television during Variety and PBS’ “Actors on Actors.” Vance noted that, years ago, the racial conversation wasn’t addressed nearly as much in the media.

“We’re watching that conversation happen on television in a context that we can actually watch and all people can watch,” he said.

Ross chalked it all up to not being courageous, but rather, “honest.”

The entire interview can be watched when the two-part fourth-season premiere of “Variety Studio: Actors on Actors” airs June 12 and June 19 on PBS SoCal. Presented by Shopbop/East Dane, the episodes will also be available to stream on Variety.com.