In their very distinct movies “Everything Everywhere All at Once” and “Tár,” Michelle Yeoh and Cate Blanchett play characters whose worlds implode. In the case of Yeoh’s character, Evelyn Wang — a Chinese American immigrant who runs a family-owned laundromat — her life is turned inside out (quite literally) when she discovers during a tax audit with vindictive IRS agent Deirdre Beaubeirdre (Jamie Lee Curtis) that she must save her family by hopping through the multiverse, using powers she didn’t know she had. With Blanchett’s Lydia Tár, after her abuses of power are exposed, the famous conductor’s carefully constructed life falls apart. 

Blanchett and Yeoh discuss playing roles originally meant for men, working with auteur directors (Todd Field on “Tár,” and Daniel Kwan and Daniel Scheinert, better known as the Daniels, on “Everything Everywhere All at Once”), and that “Carol” meme, as enacted by Yeoh and Curtis.

Cate Blanchett: I’m really nervous. 

Michelle Yeoh: You’re nervous? I’ve been having nightmares since I knew that I was doing this with you.

Blanchett: I think we met in Hong Kong. We met, and I felt you before I saw you. But not in an inappropriate way. There’s something about your presence. You just have this aura. And I turned around, and there was Michelle Yeoh. I was quite overwhelmed.

Yeoh: Oh, my God. I have loved you from your first film and followed you all the way across — all with deep respect and, OK, envy.

Blanchett: Envy’s a good motivator. You’ve just done something which seems to be a synthesis of everything that you’ve done over the years, which is one of the greatest movies of all time, “Everything Everywhere All at Once.” Did it feel like you were bringing to bear decades’ worth of work onto that experience?

Read the full conversation here as part of Variety’s Actors on Actors, presented by Amazon Studios.