Bob Iger has risen to the top post at Disney, but he didn’t always want to be a high-powered executive. He wanted to be Walter Cronkite.

Iger, Variety‘s 2016 Showman of the Year, talked with “Star Wars: The Force Awakens” director J.J. Abrams about his early ambitions to be a television anchor, how he transitioned to ABC, and some of his favorite TV shows and movies.

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“Even though I started off being interested in news, and I spent 13 years of my career working in television sports, I always was passionate about television and movies,” Iger tells Abrams.

Watch the full video above.