The relationship between Hollywood studios and videogame publishers is evolving, but gamemakers at Thursday’s 16th annual Dice Awards in Las Vegas say there’s still a distance between the two.

“I don’t think they’re completely separate, but I think there are a lot of challenges between the two,” Capcom’s Christian Svensson said at the event, which serves as the Oscars of the vidgame biz, produced by the Academy of Interactive Arts and Sciences. “The sheer difference between times of development … is a very hard thing to reconcile. And I don’t know if anyone has really figured out how to make it collaborative. We’ve still got a ways to go.”

Still, developers note that the two industries are trying to learn each other’s language and work together better. Gearbox Studio’s Randy Pitchford praised 20th Century Fox for its help on the upcoming “Aliens: Colonial Marines.” Trion Worlds’ Nick Beliaeff said the company’s relationship with the SyFy Network has gone well. And Mike Capps, former president of Epic Games, noted: “The resurgence of comics in movies is helping us a lot. Good, cool IPs that have a hero fantasy are popular right now, and that’s what videogames are really all about.”