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Donald Trump’s decision to skip the Fox News debate? Unchanged.

Fox News’ Bill O’Reilly interviewed Trump on “The O’Reilly Factor” for almost 20 minutes on Wednesday, trying to convince him to reconsider by pointing out that he was making a bad decision. On Tuesday, Trump announced that he would skip the GOP presidential debate on Thursday because of his objections to co-moderator Megyn Kelly and a Fox News press release that made a joke of his claims of journalistic mistreatment.

“You are depriving people of seeing you in a forum they want to see you in,” O’Reilly said to Trump at one point.

O’Reilly asked Trump if he would at least reconsider. Trump didn’t commit to that, and even objected to O’Reilly asking him such a question.

“You and I had an agreement that you would not ask me that,” Trump said, calling it an “embarrassing question.”

Trump instead will hold a rally in Des Moines on Thursday and raise money for veterans organizations.

Rivals like Ted Cruz have chided Trump for skipping the debate, while O’Reilly noted that should he become president, geopolitical rivals would give him a lot more unfair treatment. Trump, however, insisted that Kelly was unfair in asking a question at the first debate in August over his treatment of women.

“I don’t like being taken advantage of,” Trump said. “In this case, I was being taken advantage of by Fox.” While O’Reilly suggested that he was letting petty things get to him and had to rise above it all, Trump said that such a personality trait would carry over into getting better deals from other countries like Iran.

“It is a personality trait, but I don’t think it is a bad personality trait,” Trump said, while insisting he was not “walking away.”

But O’Reilly said that Kelly’s question was within “journalistic bounds,” even though he said he may have asked it a different way.

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