Caitlyn Jenner Could Face Manslaughter Charge in Deadly Malibu Crash

Caitlyn Jenner Car Crash Malibu
AP Photo/Ringo H.W. Chiu

Caitlyn Jenner could be charged with manslaughter following her car accident in Malibu earlier this year that left one dead.

“The case will be submitted to the district attorney next week,” said Lt. Shaun Mathers of the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department.

Detectives have completed their six-month investigation and are set to present evidence to the prosecution that could lead to a misdemeanor manslaughter charge against the “I Am Cait” star. Because there’s “nothing really egregious” in the case, Det. Richard Curry of the Sheriff’s Dept. said there’s a “50/50” chance that she will be charged.

A misdemeanor manslaughter charge usually carries a one-year county jail sentence.

Jenner was driving down Pacific Coast Highway on Feb. 7 at an unsafe speed when her Escalade hit another vehicle, causing a chain-reaction crash, authorities said. Curry charged that Jenner’s violation of the vehicular manslaughter law ultimately led to a death.

“My heartfelt and deepest sympathies go out to the family and loved ones, and to all of those who were involved or injured in this terrible accident,” Jenner said in a statement a day after the accident. “It is a devastating tragedy, and I cannot pretend to imagine what this family is going through at this time. I am praying for them. I will continue to cooperate in every way possible.”

Although Jenner was not speeding, she was driving too fast for the day’s road conditions.

According to authorities, Kim Howe’s Lexus rear-ended Jessica Steindorff’s Toyota Prius, causing Jenner’s Escalade to rear-end Howe’s car, pushing it into oncoming traffic. A Hummer then struck Howe’s car head-on, causing her to die at the scene near Corral Canyon Road.

Steindorff and Howe’s family separately sued Jenner, claiming that her negligence was to blame for the fatal crash. Steindorff alleges that she suffered more than $25,000 in damages.

Detectives will also present evidence to the L.A. County District Attorney’s Office against Steindorff, as she was driving on a suspended license at the time.

The accident occurred months before Jenner’s gender transition. She was formerly known as Bruce Jenner, the gold medalist in the men’s decathlon at the 1976 Summer Olympics, stepfather of the Kardashian clan and star of the hit E! reality series “Keeping Up With the Kardashians.”

If Jenner is charged, her E! docuseries “I Am Cait” will not be affected, as the first season has wrapped production, with the finale set to air on Sept. 13.

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  1. Peter C says:

    Does Jenner even feel guilty, he was on his cell and he lied about it. If it was one of us commoners we would be in jail

  2. Um, the car in the picture is not an Escalade, it’s a Hummer.

    • u r a moron says:

      jenner was driving an escalade,the hummer was the vehicle he pushed her car infront of..did you even read the article?

  3. d says:

    i saw the crash, you was responsable, what eva u call ur self, u are guilty of manslaughter,vehichliar, are you gonna buy ur self out of this,,,,how much,, i need vacation,,sicko, u need to right this wrong, u know u was on phone, we has video,and picks, u sicko,oh ms pyhco,,,,,,,,,,,, ya tuck ur balls in jail,

  4. Kettle says:

    BUCKLE UP BUCKAROOS

  5. Bobisha says:

    they only sued her because she’s rich; they were already crashed into each other before she came along. its called a pile up, she didnt cause manslaughter.

  6. The Bandog says:

    The “Woman of the Year” still hasn’t undergone sex change surgery, and so, is still very much a man.
    The recipient of a “Bravery” award killed a woman through negligence, and avoided charges because of wealth and connections.
    When did we start living in Opposite Land??

  7. Peggy says:

    Jenner should face charges and serve time just like anyone else,it doesn’t change anything because he got some Doctor to try and transform him into a woman ,in God’s eyes he is a man

  8. cj says:

    I think that Bruse jenne became Cati because he didn’t want to be found in fault of the car accident. I guaranteed if it was a normal citizen they would’ve been found guilty and charges would’ve been brought up.for driving over the speed limit then what was safe for traffic at that time. That just shows the American people that people that live in the spotlight and Amos first you do reality shows are able to get away with a lot more then regular citizens.

  9. J Villaudy says:

    How can Caitlan Jenner be innocent she did rear end the vehicle in front of her.

  10. Adam says:

    The photo above isn’t the accident? The article says it’s a Cadillac, but the pic shows a H2.

  11. joe says:

    Why dose it matter who you are and how much money you have murder is murder do we have a pay scale on murder WAKE UP crime dose pay it pays everybody salary and the victim gets death penalty

  12. so as soon as he/her identifies/becomes a “woman”, he/she crashes his/her car?? too funny (aside from the person dying because of it of course)…were there no fatalities, this would have been one of the funniest things I’ve seen…and if you’re PC, you’re an idiot…a dyed-in-the-wool, liberally grown moron…I don’t need stupid people to force me to be nice to everyone…I can do that all on my own thank you…(yes, even transgender personages)…but becoming a woman and then crashing your car is just classic…and if anyone gets offended by this, TOLERATE it…

  13. Jim says:

    Everyone involved in the accident can be issued a ticket for failure to control your vehicle.

  14. Little Billy says:

    Most Recent Update: AS OF 07:26 A.M., SEPTEMBER 6, 2015, THE LA COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY HAS CONCLUDED THE CASE REVIEW OF THE FEBRUARY 7, 2015 BRUCE JENNER, AKA CAITLYN JENNER, MALIBU CRASH CASE AND HAS JUST UPGRADED A PREVIOUS ARREST WARRANT TO A FELONY ARREST WARRANT FOR CAITLYN JENNER, AKA BRUCE JENNER. UPON BEING TAKEN INTO CUSTODY BY THE LOS ANGELES SHERIFF’S DEPARTMENT, BRUCE WILL BE CHARGED WITH FELONY VEHICULAR MANSLAUGHTER. THERE IS A MANDATORY ONE YEAR MINIMUM JAIL SENTENCE FOR THIS CRIME. BRUCE JENNER WILL THEN BE INCARCERATED AT THE LOS ANGELES COUNTY MEN’S CENTRAL JAIL, SINCE, TO THIS POINT, HE HAS NOT COMPLETED HIS FULL GENDER REASSIGMENT SURGERY, STILL HAS HIS MALE GENITALIA, PENIS AND TESTICLES, AND THEREFORE CONSIDERED TO STILL RETAIN HIS BIRTH GENDER, UNDER STATE AND FEDERAL LAW.

    • “Little Billy” here is a liar, thinks that putting it all in caps will make it seem real. no charges yet, and the only charge recommended is misdemeanor, NOT felony, vehicular manslaughter. there is NO arrest warrant at all, as charges have NOT been filed. there is a MAXIMUM one year jail time for this charge, and with her record, most lawyers are saying she might not get any jail time, much less the maximum.

      also while the penal system still has not caught up to present day standards, in a lot of state, and for the federal government you do NOT need to have SRS to get your gender marker changed now, and California is one of them, i know as i am changing mine as we speak>

      so “little Billy” go back and play in the hate filled sand box ok? leave the posting to the adults around here.

  15. Ricks2524 says:

    It was traveling fast enough to move the first vehicle into oncoming traffic then travel far enough to strike a second vehicle several feet farther. It should be charged with manslaughter and jailed if guilty.

  16. Little Billy says:

    Update: AS OF 8:26 A.M., SEPTEMBER 1 2015, THE LA COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY HAS CONCLUDED THE CASE REVIEW OF THE FEBRUARY 7, 2015 BRUCE JENNER, AKA CAITLYN JENNER, MALIBU CRASH CASE AND HAS JUST UPGRADED A PREVIOUS ARREST WARRANT TO A FELONY ARREST WARRANT FOR CAITLYN JENNER, AKA BRUCE JENNER. UPON BEING TAKEN INTO CUSTODY BY THE LOS ANGELES SHERIFF’S DEPARTMENT, BRUCE WILL BE CHARGED WITH FELONY VEHICULAR MANSLAUGHTER. THERE IS A MANDATORY ONE YEAR MINIMUM JAIL SENTENCE FOR THIS CRIME. BRUCE JENNER WILL THEN BE INCARCERATED AT THE LOS ANGELES COUNTY MEN’S CENTRAL JAIL, SINCE, TO THIS POINT, HE HAS NOT COMPLETED HIS FULL GENDER REASSIGMENT SURGERY, STILL HAS HIS MALE GENITALIA, PENIS AND TESTICLES, AND THEREFORE CONSIDERED TO STILL RETAIN HIS BIRTH GENDER, UNDER STATE AND FEDERAL LAW.

  17. ___ says:

    He should also go to jail for killing Bruce Jenner.

  18. um wrong, unless you have a crystal ball, it is MISDEMEANOR involuntary manslaughter. go put your hate to more use, and dig some holes or something as useful.

    you thinking taking anal sex makes a woman feel more natural just goes to show how messed up your little mind is

  19. This is a horrible tragedy but after all is said and done, I am thinking, “are you kidding me?” She wasn’t speeding or doing anything illegal and she stopped and cooperated this whole time. It was a chain reaction and the two cars that hit and were hit BEFORE her are trying to sue her? She should have slowed down for existing conditions? Let’s charge all car drivers for not driving the guessed speed limit for existing conditions. And what a misleading title to this website! I would HATE to be famous. SOME people are like vultures. She’s is being targeted ONLY because she is famous and more so because she is transgender.

    • Karen, i just saw the video you are talking about, all the videos i have seen show Steindorff slowed, or stopped, but i have only seen a “recreation” showing Howe hitting Steindorff. she did stop/slow causing Howe to do the same, and CJ didnt see it in time, for whatever reason, to stop. but if you look at this video, you need to close the stupid add bubbles on the left, then restart the video, you can see that the Lexus is not close enough to hit the prius BEFORE CJ hit her. I am on CJ’s side, but in this case she did hit HOWE into Steindorff, then into oncoming traffic. not saying its purposefull, or even her fault i think it more rests on Steindorff, a 29 yr old talent agent that is on her SECOND suspended license, where CJ is 65 with none that i have heard of, or even DUI etc. if there were, it would be all over the news by now. people CAN make dumb mistakes, and from original statement, she said she was trying to get away from some Paparazzi, for which the police said there is no evidence of them being there, except there are claims they have pics of her on the PHONE while driving. so either at a different time, or they WERE there, and that was why she was distracted, them chasing her. NOT a valid reason for going too fast, but it all adds into why she didnt notice the slow down in time.

    • if you watch, there is NO damage to the lexus on the front until it collides with the hummer.

    • David Bandel says:

      He*

      or at best It*

      Your gender is determined by your reproductive organs.

      Caitlyn Jenner is a transexual, not a woman.

      And to your last point. She will only get off for this charge because she is an icon to social justice warriors, the true dregs of society.

      • Teresa, I watched the video again and again. What video are you seeing? The one that ET came out with only shows the moment Jenner hit the Lexus, which pushed it into oncoming traffic and then the Hummer hit the Lexus. This article clearing explains that the Lexus hit the Prius before Jenner hit the Lexus. Also, Jenner was going 38 miles per hour at the time and pulling a trailor. Along with the Mercedes, that is a lot of weight to stop instantly. It is Howe’s step-children and Jessica Steindorff suing Jenner.

        “According to authorities, Kim Howe’s Lexus rear-ended Jessica Steindorff’s Toyota Prius, causing Jenner’s Escalade to rear-end Howe’s car, pushing it into oncoming traffic. A Hummer then struck Howe’s car head-on, causing her to die at the scene near Corral Canyon Road.”

      • and david, go get a real life why dont you. no GENDER is NOT determined by reproductive organs, SEX is. Gender is mental/soul, biological sex is different. that is the basic definition of a transsexual, someone who gender and biological sex do not match, and some take medical steps to correct this, some dont. as far as the law is concerned, if she has done the proper steps she is female, just as i am. if she has or hasnt had her bottom surgery, it doesnt matter to anyone, except any bed partner she might have.

        if she is found to be at fault enough for a trial, they will, she is a celebrity, and DA’s love to get their pics in the paper being “tough” on crime. but as the police say, or a lawyer, cant remember which, they only prosecute misdemeaners like this 50% of the time.

      • Karen, if you watch the video, it shows a different story. it shows the Prius STOPPED, which ultimately caused the accident. the first contact was CJ hitting the back of Howe’s car, who then hit Steindorff, then CJ hit Steindorff after that. Howe is dead, charging her is a no go, Steindorff is being charged with driving on a suspended (as far as i have seen or heard).

        so only CJ was “driving to fast/unsafely for road conditions”, both of the other drivers had NO license, at least valid one, Howes was expired, according to reports, for 8 YEARS. so since both were on suspended licenses, needless to say, they were NOT insured. so that leaves CJ to pay the bills all the way around

      • You just proved my point with your comment. They were all driving too fast for the conditions on the road which caused the woman who died to crash into the FIRST vehicle. Almost everybody does that without thinking. Why aren’t they charging all involved? Why is the family of the woman that died, Kim Howe, suing Jenner, when she hit the first vehicle because of the same thing? Why is Jessica Steindorff suing Jenner and not Kim Howe’s family? Hello

        “According to authorities, Kim Howe’s Lexus rear-ended Jessica Steindorff’s Toyota Prius, causing Jenner’s Escalade to rear-end Howe’s car, pushing it into oncoming traffic. A Hummer then struck Howe’s car head-on, causing her to die at the scene near Corral Canyon Road.”

  20. um, NO. she is Caitlyn NOW, it is being reported NOW, for legal purposes the police are using the proper forms for when the accident happened, but the charges, if filed will include both names, one as her legal name, the other as an “alias” as her former name. sorry that is how the law works. all the reports, etc from then say “he” and “Bruce” but if she has legally changed her name, they cant file charges against Bruce as he legally does not exist. when changing the name, they ask if you are (at least in AZ where i did mine, but i am from California) if you are doing this to evade any FELONY charges. at the time no charges were filed, and still arent, and the only ones sent to the DA were misdemeanor so they will HAVE to use HER name, NOT the old one, again if it has LEGALLY been changed.

    also its an ACCIDENT, not a malicious attack, so please keep your knicker out of a bunch. someone died, she has to live with that. i will tell you know she IS dealing with it, just because you dont see it.

  21. m says:

    definately she should be charged ..but because she is a a celebrity she will get off ..

    • all the legal stuff says they only charge on this 50% of the time on average. and even if they do, the maximum is one year jail, so not likely to get that even. i figure some kind of probation, maybe some time in local jail at most.

  22. If Bruce Jenner was driving unsafely for the road conditions, then yes, he should be charged. You are responsible for what happens when you are behind the wheel in the majority of instances. Sometimes freak accidents happen, but if he was driving safely for the conditions, this likely would not have happen. He deserves to be charged and subsequently punished for his role in that woman’s death.

    • Karen Stimson Jay says:

      If what you write were right then all involved should be punished for not doing the best thing in the blink of an eye. We would all be getting punished for not reacting fast enough when someone instantly puts on the brakes.

      They were all driving too fast for the conditions on the road which caused the woman who died to crash into the FIRST vehicle. Almost everybody does that without thinking. Why aren’t they charging all involved? Why is the family of the woman that died, Kim Howe, suing Jenner, when she hit the first vehicle because of the same thing? Why is Jessica Steindorff suing Jenner and not Kim Howe’s family? This is why I would HATE being famous and or different!! Vultures everywhere!

      “According to authorities, Kim Howe’s Lexus rear-ended Jessica Steindorff’s Toyota Prius, causing Jenner’s Escalade to rear-end Howe’s car, pushing it into oncoming traffic. A Hummer then struck Howe’s car head-on, causing her to die at the scene near Corral Canyon Road.”

    • yes SHE should be if they feel it is appropriate. and what about the prius driver who STOPPED (watch the video and see) which caused howe (lexus driver) to stop, both of who SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN DRIVING to begin with. yep totally all the fault of Caitlyn. she wasnt speeding, but was driving “unsafely for road conditions) yet they never say what the road conditions are, other than the stretch of road is “tricky and curvy”

      sorry i i come off heavy, but tired of the a**hats calling it murder, etc, etc because of their hate, and your misgendering is putting YOU in the same category.

      • Karen Stimson Jay says:

        August 26, 2015 at 1:59 pm

        They were all driving too fast for the conditions on the road which caused the woman who died to crash into the FIRST vehicle. Almost everybody does that without thinking, especially if you aren’t aware of the condition before someone slams on their brakes. Why aren’t they charging all involved? Why is the family of the woman that died, Kim Howe, suing Jenner, when she hit the first vehicle because of the same thing? Why is Jessica Steindorff suing Jenner and not Kim Howe’s family?

        “According to authorities, Kim Howe’s Lexus rear-ended Jessica Steindorff’s Toyota Prius, causing Jenner’s Escalade to rear-end Howe’s car, pushing it into oncoming traffic. A Hummer then struck Howe’s car head-on, causing her to die at the scene near Corral Canyon Road.”

      • edieppa2, i never said it was, and the proper term is misdemeanor involuntary manslaughter, which if their evidence proves out, sounds appropriate. I am a transwoman, and if you check my postings i support her, but running from paparazzi is NOT an excuse to violate the law, but i do think that paparazzi should be covered under some kind of stalking law

      • edieppa2 says:

        It wasn’t murder, it was vehicular manslaughter.

  23. Jeff Jones says:

    America, the laughing stock of the world. Caitlyn Jenner, hero murderer.

  24. Johnny Kay says:

    Here’s the bottom line: Bruce Jenner recklessly caused the death of another because he chose to drive unsafely, but he has nothing to worry about. Why? Because he did what he was asked and has played his role well.

    Think about it. . .

  25. Here is how I see it. Kim Howe didn’t have a license at all to drive so if he was following the law he wouldn’t have been on the road driving and that person would be alive. It wasn’t like it was expired I believe it was suspended for some reason. So as far as I am concern you break the law why should you or your family benefit for something that happen to you. It is like someone breaking into your home hurts themselves an can actually sue the homeowner I have seen cases like that. I believe if you are breaking the law of any sort family nor the person should benefit anything.

    • JD says:

      Sharon, Police charged Jessica Steindorff without having the proper license, not Kim Howe, the woman that died in the collision. Howe made a mistake in rear ending Steindorff but it was Jenner that then hit Howe and caused her car into the oncoming lane, and her death.

      • it has been found that HOWE also didnt have a valid license, according to reports, for 8 YEARS. Steindorff, if you watch the video, it shows the car in front of her moving but SHE is NOT, there is a metal pole, while the bus point of view is moving, her relation to that pole is not, or hardly at all, hard to say with stop motion camera’s but it doesnt appear she is moving at all, so Howe had to stop to avoid hitting her, and if Jenner WAS distracted by the paparazzi could be why she didnt see it in time to stop, etc. police say there is no evidence, but supposedly they have pics of her on the phone, probably calling to who ever about THEM, the paparazzi. if they have these photos, then they WERE there, and WERE chasing her, so the polices statement is in error, and the paparazzi should be charged with impeding an investigation, at the minimum.

        running from the paparazzi is NOT a valid excuse for the accident, but it IS a contributing factor if Jenner’s statement is correct

    • BurbankCop says:

      I think everyone is confused to how this happened. Here’s some light into what happened.

      1.Traffic conditions that day were slow, almost bumper to bumper traffic.

      2.Jenner was coming down the lane at the legal speed limit, Yes, BUT too fast for the flow of traffic. Now it is against the law to travel at accelerated speed limits against the flow of traffic, you must always travel at safe speed that’s permissible to the flow of traffic, highway, freeway, and residential. Jenner was moving faster than traffic allowed her too. So she broke the law. Everyone does it. Everyone tries to beat LA traffic, it just so happens that this ends up in a car crash.

      Now the part everyone is confused on
      This is what happened:

      3. Jenner hit Howe in which Howe hit Steindorff. The chain reaction. Jenners car kept on with the traction and pushed Howe into the opposite oncoming traffic which resulted in Howe getting hit by the hummer and killing her. After Jenners car pushed Howe out the way, her car continued and hit Steindorff.

      Now some of you say they were driving without licenses, which is against the law, but Howe and Steindorff we’re not at fault of the crash. Jenner was. Even If they did have licenses Jenner would still be at fault for creating the crash.

      I was once young and dumb and drove with no license and no insurance and I was hit head on by a driver driving at a high speed against the flow of traffic, and I won the case in court because the other person broke the law. But I was fined $1,500 for no license and $300 for no insurance, but I bought insurance the next day and the $300 was reduced to $25. But the other car was liable for crashing into me.

      This reminds me so much of my crash back in 2005, and yes Jenner is cooperating, she has too, her status doesn’t exclude her from the rest of us, her crash caused a death, her car pushed another car into oncoming traffic, then continued and slammed into the car in front of that one. Pure recklessness, and Jenner is know for her/his fast cars, off roading, raceways hobbies, it is a known fact Jenner loves to go fast, so I don’t put that against her. She’s an fast adrenaline junkie. I think if she gets jail time then she deserves it.

      • Elle Michaels says:

        Thank you for clarifying that. Also, if he was on the phone, as some people stated, it is illegal to drive in California and talk on the cell phone at the same time. So, driving too fast for road conditions and also talking on the cell phone and that girl is dead. I think charges should be filed.

      • @burbank cop you are correct in most of what you are saying here, but have you watched the, granted not great quality, video. Steindorff was STOPPED when no one else was, watch the road side, there is a metal post for wire fencing, she doesnt move in relation to it, the bus is, thats all. this cause Howe to slow or stop, i am assuming quickly, and Jenner was not able to stop. the only one who should be able to sue would be howes husband, or dependent children, NOT estranged children, and NOT steindorff for stopping and causing the unsafe condition to start with.

    • I agree 100 % Sharon. Although it’s not funny because someone died —–If my passport expired, Immigration is not going to let me fly. My family are entitled to Zero if I decide to evade the authorities and die because I sneak in with the cargo. Howe hadn’t had a valid license in 8 years and they have the nerve to sue. If anything Jenner should be suing them for her being in her way. Seriously though, I think Jenner has been through enough. Jessica Steindorff was driving on a suspended license and is also suing. Perhaps Jenner should be suing her as well, for her also being in her way. We certainly would be looking at a different set of circumstances. I don’t know if anyone else see it this way, but aren’t we talking about LAWS here ????

  26. johanofierra says:

    Article says: “…when her Escalade hit another vehicle…”, but the picture shows a Hummer.

    • Caitlyn was in the Escalade, the hummer was what the car was pushed into and killed the driver. if you look above the white wrecked car, you can see a dune buggy type vehicle on a trailer, in front of that is caitlyns SUV

  27. DoobyDoo says:

    “Kim Howe’s Lexus rear-ended Jessica Steindorff’s Toyota Prius, causing Jenner’s Escalade to rear-end Howe’s car, pushing it into oncoming traffic.” WTF? Jenner was third in line how is it heshe’s fault?

    • in most places, if you rear end someone, it is almost automatically assumed to be your fault, with the investigation finding this other information, i am assuming she was traveling faster than surrounding traffic is the prevailing conditions she was traveling unsafely for. they dont specify the reason it was considered unsafe speed, when she was under the posted speed limit.

      Steindorff is suing because her car was hit by Jenners, even though she was the cause of the accident, she might have a civil case, but i think she is more responsible than Caitlyn is for the death, but the law i think might disagree. i love that the estranged kids are suing, before any blame is even established, much less charges filed. just goes to show its all about the money, nothing more

    • Jenner is not at fault. Jessica Steindorff is suing ??? If anything she should go jail, as apparently this was her second suspended sentence. Howe’s family are suing ??? Maybe they should have ensured she had a valid drivers license (expired 8 years). Then again if they were estranged as it says, then maybe they hadn’t seen her in 8 years. Take those 2 out of the equation and there wouldn’t be a case.

  28. Whitney says:

    Anyone other than Caitlyn Jenner is already in jail awaiting trial for felony manslaughter, with a plea offer of 10 years CDC on the table. Misdemeanor manslaughter? I never knew there was even such a thing! What next? Misdemeanor rape? The ridiculousness will never end with this country, and the way we cater to celebrities (even worse when political correctness rears its ugly head).

    • read the law, there is no intent, there was no gross negligence, thats the key factor. and no, just because there is a fatality, unless there is some form of drugs, drinking, etc is anyone immediately put in jail, even then they are released until their first court date, unless they are determined to be a flight risk, then they might be held, but they have to do that in such a short period of time, with the backlog in the courts, it is rarely done for this kind of incident.

      there IS misdemeanor rape, maybe you need to look up some laws, its a class on misdemeanor, statutory rape, an adult with someone 15-17.

      showing unreasoning hate is not our legal system, sorry

  29. Kendra Murphy says:

    This is stupid an ridiculous….. Are u serious u are tell me there are charging this person with possible man slaughter for ???? Exactly…not for speeding…not for cause the wreck in any way… But for hitting a car tht seemed to b moving in forward moving traffic omg or is it because who it is I’m so mad lol

  30. ComTech121 says:

    Slight typo in my original post. What I meant to say is that it’s too bad that the cops don’t believe HIM, as I’m sure he’d be grinning from ear to ear if they did let him off the hook.

  31. Susie smith says:

    The video clearly shows Jenner slammed into Lexus then jennet slammed into Prius leaving escalade imprint on Prius
    Coverup ?

    • the video als shows that prius STOPPED in the free way, on a curvy road. look up the video, watch the road side, see the metal post, the car is not moving, but the bus the camera’s are on IS, but if you watch, it is not moving, which is what caused the accident

  32. Squidhound11 says:

    He, Bruce, had the accident. Now he’s a she so shouldn’t the charge be Womanslaughter? If guilty S/HE should do time in a male prison! I bet his parts are still tape to his ass!

    • yeah, no. legally she is caitlyn, now proper terms should be used, but it is understandable in the legal world,as reports were filled out when she was still presenting as he, but now its common courtesy, or can i call you whatever i feel like it, is that ok Maam? or should that be Sir? since you are hiding behind a stupid alias, hard to decide, but i think few woman use Hound in their names.

      if guilty, its state or county, its a misdemeanor, so not segregated if county, its just jail. but since is a celebrity, will be in a different area than general i would think, just as they put most police, etc because they become targets

  33. Dany says:

    I’m not at all a fan of the whole Kardashian/Jenner horde, but most of you people commenting seriously need to step down off your high horse. Who here can say they’ve NEVER driven over the speed limit? Everyone does it. Most of us are just lucky enough that no one has ever slammed on their brakes in front of us at the time.

    • Being 4 real says:

      Yes, true majority do go a little over speed limit but cautious responsible drivers pay attention to the road! Fender benders are result going a little over and tailgating, but he slammed not bumped. lexus’s are pretty sturdy cars so to push the car he had to of been going mighty fast

      • did you even read the article, she (then he) was driving BELOW the posted limit, it was on a “tricky and curvy” part of the road, and the issue was the prius had STOPPED, howe, the second car, was trying to stop, or did but Caitlyn didnt see it in time to stop, for whatever reason. they have NO other infraction to put the blame on her other than the nebulous “driving at unsafe speeds for the road conditions”.

        as to sturdy, you havent seen many newer lexus’s have you, some of them are pretty much like most cars, its more a name than a real great car, unless you buy one of the upper end models, like most brands. she was also still moving, so not as much as you might think, also the collision might have had her hitting the gas peddle, either in confusion, or by accident.

  34. Stan Champion says:

    Caitman Jenner Brings A Whole New Meaning To Manslaughter.

  35. Frank says:

    If a man committed a crime, turns into a woman, gets charged with that crime that it made while a man, as a woman.
    What pen does it go to?
    Men’s or Women’s?

  36. Mini says:

    Jenner was not the cause of the crash, it appears the Lexus driver was the one who caused it so that is the person who should be charged. Not Jenner, this is Bullshit just because she is a “celebrity” these haters always want to blame them.

    • Nilah Walder says:

      She may not have been the cause of the accident between the lexus and the prius true BUT her unsafe driving CAUSED ANOTHER accident resulting in death. She needs to be charged for creating another accident resulting in death. It just so happens to be her, celebrity status has nothing to do with this….she was driving unsafely for (what looks like foggy conditions). If it had been a jane joe or johhny joe it would have happened a little different ie that person would have been booked instead of given a ticket. That is the only thing her “celebrity status” has done was a ticket and she walked.

      • Nilah, there was another ” celebrity ” involved in this accident, and she is rarely mentioned. As for ” Jane Doe” , this seems to be what Howe ( the deceased ) and Jessica Steindorff (the actress ) were trying to accomplish (that is, IF all went well) in evading the Police while driving with expired and suspended licenses. I hope Jenner gets off because those 2 should NOT have been in her path at all, therefore no accident. Try drinking coffee if all you have is tea. (same principle).

  37. debbieeilean says:

    When some people are involved in a car accident whereupon someone tragically dies, they cannot handle the truth and perhaps Jenner has decided to distance himself from the truth due to guilt related issues like if he hadn’t been there that day, would A-B-C have happened so if he He probably would have been best at a shrink after accident and with the proper help maybe would not have decided he therefore did not want this to happen to him, needed to try and become a woman. As if the woman (cait) had no involvement in accident therefore he was not at accident. Sounds more like schizophrenia and media has helped to elevate mental problems.

    • Sandra Maldeis says:

      This is an interesting take on things. However you are confused as to what Schizophrenia is as it has nothing to do with two personalities in the same body or man/woman issues. It’s a disease that causes the victim to have a false perception of what is real and what isn’t. There is often audio/visual hallucinations and the person affected can’t separate the two. I’m mentioning this as I worked in a home helping these people and they want others to know they don’t have Multiple Personality Disorder which is something completely different and many of them work hard to educate the public about what Schizophrenia actually is.
      I agree with you in believing that anyone involved in an accident resulting in death should be counselled and seen by a shrink as the stress must be overwhelming and as you said with media attention, it would be much worse.
      I’m not sure of the laws in the US as I’m from Canada, but I believe that before anyone can undergo a gender change they are required to see a Shrink more than once before it can be done.
      hether, Cait or Bruce, I think the whole thing is just very sad. So many of the remarks here are just cruel and it shows the way people are. At least you looked below the surface for some understanding.
      I doubt anyone here hasn’t at least once, gone faster in bad weather conditions than they should have, but it’s comforting to blame someone else for the same thing they’ve done, I guess.

      • wow, that is the MOST silly excuse yet for someone being trans. i am sure she could produce medical records showing her aborted transition in the 80’s, but maybe she was just doing that “in case” something happened, right? this is NOT a sudden thing, any good therapist will NOT condone transition or surgery if there are unresolved mental issues. if she is NOT trans, and it comes out, especially AFTER the surgery, they could and some HAVE lost their licenses, been sued, etc for failing at this duty, which is why they have a 2 therapist recommendation BEFORE surgery. they are human and her regular therapist could become emotionally involved where the second is supposed to be not biased, but BOTH careers are in jeopardy if they were to sign off, which she says she already has.

        being in an accident, especially one where someone died and you were part of it, if not the cause, is traumatic and a lot of people need help to deal with it, but supposing that is why she is transitioning is just stupid, sorry to be blunt.

    • Being 4 real says:

      If Bruce is innocent. Then why is the DA taking the case? Even if he is a celeb no diff. He was a corporate in the accident. Rewind the facts back in Feb. Maybe PEEPS are hatin’ the fakin’! OJ reflection here he’s an old athlete celeb committed a crime wheres OJ now. Celeb status don’t mean a thing. Its a misdemeanor. So he’ll get probate maybe community service , Oh ya a serious reality check on why you dot speed, text and drive! PEACE!!

      • um they arent, the police presented the facts to the DA, they have not decided to press charges that i have seen. they HAVE to take the case presented, but they may chose NOT to pursue the case, according to a statement, it is a 50/50 chance a case like this will go to trial.

        and SHE was NOT speeding, read the article, someone mentioned it looked foggy, not in any of the pics i saw, it was NOON or later, rare in the LA,area even in malibu if i recall correctly. the stop motion camera is black and white, so maybe they are thinking it was based on that?

  38. cob says:

    Obviously you people know nothing about law, he or she was caught in the middle of an unfortunate accident… no way is it manslaughter

  39. Robert says:

    IF that pic is the crash pic that’s a Hummer H2

  40. Talis says:

    I understand accidents happen but this was no “fender bender”. A Women died and several others were injured. Paparazzi captured incidents after the deadly accident with Bruce (he was Bruce then) talking on his cell phone while driving!!! This should be taken into account when he’s charged. He won’t due any jail time but he deserves a long probation period for sure.

    • ok if they did this, then her claim of being chased, not that it excuses it, by paparazzi was true, the police discounted it as “no evidence” found. jail the Paparazzi for stalking, and hindering the investigation for not coming forward at that time and turning over the photos.

      if she was indeed on the phone, then yes she is in more trouble. big if, as i am sure they have lots of stock pics of her in that car, on that road, etc.

  41. Aubrey says:

    This is so ridiculous. Why is the Toyota suing Jenner? You slammed on ur breaks causing this accident. Jenner should NOT be guilty of manslaughter. I read this and couldn’t believe what i was reading. Prayers to family of the Lexus and Jenner.

    • Jessiica Steindorff (an actress) was illegally driving the Toyota, as her license had been suspended twice. Jenner should be suing her.

    • karmakid says:

      Well put, Aubrey. Reason makes an entrance! I wonder if any of these commenters even bothered to read the whole thing.

      • Being 4 real says:

        Uh ya why do you think there commenting? He was breaking a law. He took part in a serious crash. He is responsible more because of how fast n being on phone. How reckless can one be. Use your common sense here. If his focus was were it should of been . Do you really think he would of done what he did.

  42. karmakid says:

    I knew that, eventually, the issue of Caitlyn Jenner being transgender would trump the subject of this article, but I didn’t think it would happen right off the bat by a bunch of ‘people’ (are Internet trolls considered ‘people’?) that are mean-spirited, ill-informed, bitter, misogynist / homophobic haters chomping at the bit to spout their BS in a pathetic attempt to sound clever, funny, and educated. How proud you must be to live in a country where you’re afforded the right to free speech — and to use that right for this trash-talk; I’m sure your parents are beaming with pride. America doesn’t have to worry about any threat from the outside, because we will happily devour ourselves from within. Rest in peace, Ms. Howe. Ms. Steindorff, you got $25k payday from Ms. Jennifer, even though you broke the law by driving on a suspended license. Ms. Jenner, I imagine you will have to take the brunt of this because of who you are, not because of how you were driving. There are no winners in this case, except for the people who thrive on the misfortune of others.

      • karmakid says:

        You just made it; the amount of time spent engaging in off-topic douchery on this thread is astoundingly outrageous. No reasoning is used –even reading the article proves too incomprehensible for some to grasp. Haters will hate, trollers will troll, and the collective intelligence on the planet will continue to diminish. smh

    • daisy says:

      Jenner should have the same consequences as any other driver…..and I do not give a flying……who or what she is or what her background is or how much money is in the safe.

      • Being 4 real says:

        So Karma I guess you’re an uneducated bias TROLL yourself now huh? Bruce is a joke and the whole family. America can’t stand the kardash/Jenner clan because they don’t represent real people with real problems. They prostitute themselves for money. How can real people respect them? Bruce is not a transgender and that’s besides the point of what took place that day? Thank the Lord we are in America fellow TROLL digger, or you wouldn’t have what you have! So before you start bashing , what brought you to go on this site ? Hypocritical ya think!

  43. Mark says:

    If you hit someone from behind you are at fault, driving to fast for conditions. You know tailgating is cool.

    • @being 4 real but fake, right? cant even use your real name, real brave of you. you have NO RIGHT to say who is and isnt trans. go suck on your toes some more for some better talking points maybe.

      as to “prostituting” every person in the entertainment and POLITICAL arena do the same thing, every day. why is it “bad”? because you are a hating troll? no problem you are entitled to your opinion on that, but not on ANY ONES status as trans, gay, etc.

    • karmakid says:

      So is driving on a suspended license. The coolest yet! It paid off, in her case; she received $25K from Jenner as a reward for breaking the law, and causing the initial accident.

  44. random says:

    If it was anyone else they would have been put into jail faster

  45. Alexander says:

    Why is no one mentioning that HER LICENSE WAS SUSPENDED. The 69 yr old should not have been on the road in the first place. Case closed.

    • Scott McWilliams says:

      Her?

    • Nancy says:

      It was the other driver who had a suspension.

      • karmakid says:

        From the article: “Detectives will also present evidence to the L.A. County District Attorney’s Office against Steindorff, as she was driving on a suspended license at the time.” The woman who caused the initial accident by rear ending the deceased; the woman who got $25K from a settlement with Jenner–that’s who Alexander was talking about. Will she be held accountable, or will they go for Jenner, whose celebrity status will no doubt play a part in the situation.

  46. Natalie says:

    Hi Ken, There are no errors in the above article. She will obviously not go to a man’s prison. I don’t think you understand the meaning of transgender. She is a woman.

  47. Mad Mike says:

    “According to authorities, Kim Howe’s Lexus rear-ended Jessica Steindorff’s Toyota Prius, causing Jenner’s Escalade to rear-end Howe’s car, pushing it into oncoming traffic.”

    so im curious to ask the person who wrote this. how is it howe’s car rear ended steindorff. which then caused jenner to comehow complete a circle and hit a car two cars behind him who by this articles writing started the chain reaction and then get herself pushed into oncomming traffic. so first car hits second car, second car hits third, and third somehow hits first and pushes it ahead of others and into traffic please explain.

    • poohpooh says:

      Presumably: Jenner’s car was behind Howe’s: Jenner → Howe → Steindorff. Howe hits Steindorff, Jenner cannot stop in time, so Jenner hits Howe. Jenner hits Howe hard enough and at the right (wrong) angle so that her car is pushed onto the other side of the road. Ill-timed Hummer coming in the opposite direction runs into head-on into Howe.

      According to the above Jenner was not even speeding, so I don’t see how she can be honestly held responsible – especially for whatever happened to Steindorff who was driving on a suspended license! Whole thing sounds awful and ridiculous.

  48. toruu says:

    You must have trouble reading, because it makes it perfectly clear Kim Howe, who died, was the one to initially rear end another car. Jenner might have potentially avoided with very fast reactions and swerving, but that cannot be clear. The two families see suing Jenner because HER family are the ones with money and fame, nothing to do with gender, and not much at all to do with who is to blame in the accident. Heck, Kim Howe died and it’s tragic but she was the first to rear end, so either she is to blame for that equally, or steindorff is for slowing without warning.

    ‘Kim Howe’s Lexus rear-ended Jessica Steindorff’s Toyota Prius, causing Jenner’s Escalade to rear-end Howe’s car, pushing it into oncoming traffic. A Hummer then struck Howe’s car head-on, causing her to die at the scene near Corral Canyon Road.’

  49. Richard says:

    Ugh…women drivers.

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