Oscar’s Diversity Woes: Why Protesters Got it Wrong

Selma

The industry’s lack of diversity definitely needs solutions. But the furor over the nominations for the 87th Academy Awards is a case of misplaced outrage.

The protests are doomed to frustration, because Oscar voting involves secret ballots and individual tastes, which cannot be quantified. So a lot of lofty theories are being presented as fact, when the focus should be on hiring practices, which can be quantified.

The Sundance Institute and Women in Film unveiled a study done with USC/Annenberg examining the top-100 grossing films each year from 2002 through 2012 (which were often big-budget films). Only 4.4% had women directors.

Nearly half the 6,000 members of the Producers Guild of America are women, Lydia Dean Pilcher of the PGA Women’s Impact Network told Variety last year. But the top 10 films at the 2014 boxoffice collectively had 27 producers, only seven of whom were women.

Of that top 10, just two starred women (“Maleficent” and “the Hunger Games: Mockingjay — Part I”). Six of the 26 writers were women. And all those women were Caucasian. All 10 films were directed by Caucasian men and featured ensemble casts that were predominantly white and male.

So do we blame the audience for patronizing these films, or the studios, or the guilds, since the crews were overwhelmingly white men?

The Academy declared 323 films eligible for Oscar. If blacks are 14.1% of the population, we should be debating 45 films (14.1% of the 2014 releases) and not just one. And we should be talking about 161 films made by women directors. And what about Hispanics (17% of the U.S.), Asians and the LGBTQ community?

The nominations are a clue to something, but it isn’t AMPAS bigotry. The Academy reflects the industry and the AMPAS honchos have been working hard to diversify membership and to work on diversification within executive and creative ranks. It all starts with the hiring.

Since we’re pointing fingers, we can certainly blame the media for throwing gasoline on the fire by bemoaning the Academy’s “appalling” snubs of Paramount’s “Selma,” director Ava DuVernay and star David Oyelowo, presenting theories as fact. Since the film got only two nominations, including best picture, people are assuming it had little support.

Here’s an alternate theory. Each AMPAS member nominates within his/her own branch, but everyone votes for best film. So maybe a large number of Academy voters actually did vote for DuVernay and Oyelowo but each came in at No. 6 or No. 7 in categories that only accommodates five.

Since best picture this year has eight contenders, placing sixth or seventh would be enough to get a nomination. That would explain how it ended up in the best-picture race but received no other noms except for song.

This is a plausible scenario. But the point is, it’s only a guess, just as every other pronouncement is. We don’t know if the 6,124 individuals liked the movie or loved it or even watched it (unlike guild members, Academy members did receive screeners).

Journalists and social media insistently pointed out that it’s the first all-white acting lineup since 1998. This glosses over the fact that the actors’ lineup has been diverse for 16 years. So one hopes 2014 is an unfortunate glitch.

Anger over the nominations is insulting to people who were nominated; everyone on the Jan. 15 list deserves to be there. Sadly, others also deserved to be there. They didn’t make the top five, but that doesn’t mean no one voted for them.

The controversy also creates unfair pressure for Paramount and the makers of “Selma”: They just wanted to reach audiences with a thoughtful and emotional film, but “Selma” has become a symbol and a socio-political football.

As a final note, much of the Oscar coverage has lamented the fact that AMPAS membership is overwhelmingly white, with an average age of 62. Does that automatically make them narrow-minded and out-of-touch? Academy voters gave Oscars to “12 Years a Slave,” Kathryn Bigelow, “Her,” “Girl With the Dragon Tattoo” and “The Social Network,” for example, which aren’t exactly fuddy-duddy choices.

In some cultures, age and experience are respected, as incredible as that sounds. People pointing fingers at the Academy are not going to stamp out prejudice by creating new bigotry. They need to go to the root of Hollywood: hiring, and giving a break to a wide variety of artists.

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  1. Da Troof says:

    This “problem” is easily solved by giving every black an award, maybe even two.

    Why is it, that some “people” can’t accept the fact that maybe their “flava” wasn’t up to par, these last few years? No matter how convinced you might be about a particular actor’a performance, that doesn’t mean everyone else feels the same way. The same applies to directors that feel they are the best “flava” to ever sport stupid looking glasses. Would they rather win based on the fact that they are black or on merit? Sometimes, the former seems to be preferred by today’s black entertainers.

    Perhaps, many non-liberal Whites, Asians, Native Americans, and Latinos are experiencing BCCCSD, Blacks Constantly Crying and Complaining Stress Disorder. They are fatigued from being bombarded by the left-wing liberal media’s coverage of black’s crying, looting, rioting, and acting like fools, over everything and anything. Just existing, doesn’t entitle you to awards and praise. I wish it were possible to honor every black with a daily parade, fireworks, and free dinner at Red Lobster but sadly, it isn’t because whitey beez rayciss an sheet.

  2. jameswlee2014 says:

    Hey, this is a nice little ceremony you got here. I’d hate to see anything happen to it.

  3. Madeleine Keller says:

    Having seen Selma, I cannot imagine why Oyewolo was left out of this list, as well as the director for a nomination. It is a shameful omission.

  4. While I do understand the frustration, one question I asked myself was: were there any actors that deserved to be nominated in that category? After seeing almost all the films nominated for Best Pic I can say honestly that absolutely no one out did Benedict Cumberbatch in The Imitation Game. Just as no one out did the ladies of The Help several years ago. It comes down to this, just because you are a certain color it does not mean you DESERVE a nomination. We can’t always nominate one white, one black, one asian, one american indian and so on…actors vote on actors, they know their own craft and they felt that the people they nominated were the best of the best. Besides, last I checked no white actors were nominated for the BET awards.

    • Sal U. Lloyd says:

      Then you don’t know good acting when you see it, Texas Trauma. Cumberpatch overracted at times. David Oyewolo on the other hand, was very effective as an understated MLK. Regardless, Michael Keaton was brilliant, becoming a heavy weight actor overnight.

  5. Why not have a CONSIDERATION…where the voter VOTES for their top pick and a SPECIAL CONSIDERATION pick, where they MUST pick a minority of SOME type…to make SURE they are taking ALL into consideration.

    • GG says:

      The BET Awards and the NAACP Image Awards are a result of no people of color being nominated at the Oscars, Emmys, etc. Notice I said no people of color to include all non-whites. I know you want to single out black people but my point also applies to the ALMA Awards which recognizes Latino accomplishments as they often are overlooked in mainstream awards as well.

  6. Rob says:

    If blacks are 14.1% of the population, we should be debating 45 films
    **
    Why? Should we debating why whites aren’t 67% of the National Basketball Association?

  7. The data presented make a strong case for gender bias and I don’t think that anyone can argue with the fact that the current slate of Oscar-nominated films lack diversity. But if you really want to get to the heart of the issue, follow the money. It takes money to make movies and money to market movies. And while big budgets never guarantee good films – they don’t hurt. Unfortunately, the big money doesn’t seem to flow to women directors. So not only do women in the industry have to do more with the few films they do get to direct, they have to do much more with the small budgets they are given to work with.

    • Rob says:

      Most, not all, women directors seem to be interested in making the type of movies which aren’t going to be huge to begin with. are there a lot of female directors clamoring to make Guardians of the Galaxy?

      Some, but not many.

  8. Chris says:

    Gee, an old white guy defending an old white Academy membership. Some things never change.

  9. Steve Harris says:

    You know what else is almost exclusively older, white males? Congress!!– And what they vote on has far most important ramifications than voting on a self-aggrandizing award. Could we please get some perspective?

  10. GayMedia says:

    So sick of people thinking they have any right to tell others how to vote. Makes me conscious of race over of performance and demotivates seeing any movie/TV show featuring black actors. Outrageous entitlement attitudes of how other people make their projects! Stupid and GREAT casting choices are made for a wide variety of reasons, but the person risking the money makes that choice.

    • I agree, it gets to a point where I’m so fed up with everything I just avoid it. MLK would definitely not be proud of gangsters, rappers, and welfare recipients, that is not what he fought for. and that is in EVERY RACE.

  11. Donna says:

    They need a more diverse cabinet of voters, most are older white men. They should start there and I agree studios need to change there hiring practices both in front and behind the camera. There are some roles given to a white person that a Black person can play as well Asian, or Latino. They need to follow the lead of television which reflects the diversity of the world today. Um the Walking Dead is a great example of this, they have the most diversity that I’ve ever see in a cast on TV. The film industry need to get with the problem.

    • Donna, you should make sure you review the standards before commenting. Anyone who is an actor or actress has a vote. Maybe no black actors did an outstanding performance this one time around. The Help swept all the awards a few years ago, as it should have. I am mixed and could easily complain about the lack of mixed women on BET, more and more blacks and whites are marrying and having children, where’s the representation in that? They are forced to side with black or white, which is no longer fair. Mixed women shouldn’t have to pick one side, they are equal measures of both.

  12. Jeffrey Vicarioi says:

    Thank God there is someone out there that is levelheaded and has written a sensible and well researched article about this on going debate about the Oscar nominations. Jeffrey Vicarioli

  13. macd says:

    Excellent article, Mr. Gray. You are 100% correct on every cogent point you make. I look forward to every forthcoming article that carries your byline.

  14. filmsharks says:

    Correction six out of eight are indie films. see below…

  15. filmsharks says:

    Six out of the ten films nominated for best picture are independent films. Only ‘American Sniper’ and ‘Selma’ are from big Hollywood studios. It’s the year of the indie film. Audiences want good quality dramas. It’s definitely a wake up call for the major studios that typically focus most of their resources on comic book and video game based franchise movies.

  16. casalazar10 says:

    No it’s not misplaced outrage. There were no Black nominees this year in a year when there were great performances by African Americans. And other demographics. This to me is an outrage.

  17. dean says:

    Last year, “12 years a Slave” mopped up.
    Hollywood has always been a major proponent of black rights.
    Look at television. Look at all the new minority TV series. And newscasts
    are frequently 100% minority anchored.
    It’s creepy how minority leaders lunge for the jugular over everything.
    Selma is nominated for Best Picture, already.
    So why does the director go into a tirade?
    Her movie vilifies LBJ, a huge advocate of civil rights.
    And she could care less.
    If Dr, King came back, and saw we had a black president, but were
    demonstrating because director wasn’t nominated for an Oscar, he would
    wonder what on earth has happened.

    • The slavery-ghost movie,from the novel,”Beloved” produced by Oprah Winfrey,was a box-office disaster.I rented it,out of curiosity,”What made black audiences stay away?”The movie had very painful,horrible,recollections of a black female slave,unable to keep her kids.It was heart-breaking, but it was great.The”ghost”the dead baby,come back to haunt Oprah’s character, was so well done.I guess those painful slavery-stories,altho excellently done,were TOO uncomfortable for modern African-Americans.I thought Oprah Winfrey,screenwriter, actors, ect. made such a memorable movie,it’s a shame crowds avoided “Beloved”,because I,a white person, saw a great picture by Oprah Winfrey; but the old slavery-age of America IS HUMILIATING, & hurtful for we white people also.No wonder they avoided “Beloved.”(it’s on video.)

      • Reader says:

        BELOVED tanked because it just wasn’t very good – it was pretty weird and heavy-handed in fact. Word-of-mouth was LETHAL. I remember asking an African-Canadian woman sitting next to me in the cinema if she was buying any of this; she laughed and said “Nah, not really!” BELOVED should’ve been called BEWILDERED.

  18. Mar says:

    Hey Tim (the writer)-
    I understand you want to win this argument, but gets your numbers right. Blacks are 14.1% of the population. Now that correction may not be significant in your world, but when we talk diversity include the facts.

    • timgray2013 says:

      I got it from the US Census Bureau, 2013 stats. That was the latest I could find.

      • Mar says:

        Thanks Tim for updating the article. I don’t agree with your point of view, but I respect you.

      • Mar says:

        If you google black population in the America 2014, it will give you the US Census Bureau 2013 stats.

      • timgray2013 says:

        Gotcha, thanks. I changed story. I started with the Census Bureau site. I’m not sure why it led me to the earlier figure. I guess the lesson is: Always start w Google… thanks.

  19. Chief O'Hara says:

    Just becasue Oprah made a MLK movie doesn’t mean that it is supposed to get a bunch of Oscars. Gawd, how entitled some people are.

  20. PETER JAY says:

    Well, Chris Nolan, David Fincher, Clint Eastwood didn’t get Best Director nominated either, so Ava is in good company. Being an experienced and successful, industry professional Ava should have for seen the backlash for treating our Democratic President Johnson dishonestly.

    • Sal U. Lloyd says:

      Peter, the problem is that SELMA, being nominated for best picture, only received two total nominations, which is the LOWEST number since . . . FOUR WEDDINGS AND A FUNERAL back in 1995! David Oyewolo deserved a nomination for his understated performance.

    • Sam says:

      DuVernay did not treat LBJ disrespectfully or vilify him!! Did you even see the film?! In fact, she was very impartial in her portrayal of him; he is represented as being an advocate of civil rights, but being a politician first, which by all accounts he was. Anyone seizing on his representation in their first response to this movie either didn`t see it or did not understand its message at all. LBJ is not the hero here, and if you are trying to make him a hero than your efforts are extremely misplaced! This film–a very well-done and powerful one, though not perfect (I personally would have liked to see more representation of the female activists–is about MLK. Let`s keep the focus on that, thank you!

      • Susan says:

        She depicted LBJ as an adversary of civil rights when nothing could be further from the truth.

        There are taped conversations between LBJ and MLK in which LBJ expresses his strong support for voting rights. He’s the one who suggested to MLK that they march in a district where there was a low number of blacks registered to vote. When MLK chose Selma he called Johnson to let him know, and Johnson tells them the route they should take. This is all on tape. Johnson also says that passing the Voting Rights Act would be the biggest achievement of his administration.

        DuVernay can make her movie however she wants, but don’t call it history.

      • LBJ is the one that created welfare, AND HE WAS A DEMOCRAT. If anything has held minorities back, it’s government dependence.

  21. diana says:

    Some people want to create friction. There’s no need to tout the desire for more diversity.
    Some of the films that would have the field more diverse were not good enough to make the voters nominate them.

  22. Jim Riley says:

    Important movie “Selma” ‘s director Ava Duvernay did not receive even a nomination from the Academy. It might not help that less than 2% of Hollywood directors are female and black females do not even register on the scale. Time for some courage and “write in” votes by the members of the Academy–to point the vote in the correct direction. Let us hope that the wonderful efforts of Selma’s director can be recognized with a deserved Oscar.

    • Sal U. Lloyd says:

      back in the early 90s a talented but cocky young African American male director named John singleton was nominated for a low budget movie in place of Babs Streisand for PRINCE OF TIDES!!! Figure that one out!

    • dean says:

      And it was really wonderful of her to trash a major advocate of civil rights in her wonderful film.
      And not show the slightest remorse.

  23. Sheila B says:

    Actual dirimination in the academy voting is the complete disregard of comedies. When was the last time a comedic actor, director, screen-writer or picture was up for any of the awards?

  24. cdhaskell says:

    Good luck getting any change in how the Oscar decide the nomination. It will be interested to what will be the next year uproar.

  25. Jake says:

    I still put all the blame on the lack of screeners, even if you say the academy got them– the other guilds did not– in fact paramount and fox opting not to send screeners of interstellar and gone girl hurt it. There is just as much outrage to me that jake gyllenhaal and nightcrawler did not make it or at the least Gillian Flynn for gone girl. You can’t fault a group of 7000 members to see all the movies and all agree on what is the best

  26. JW says:

    Of all the present day issues needing protesting, the racial diversity of the AA is the last thing. Seriously – there are scores of actors who were dissappointed this week after the nominations were announced. Just like at the conclusion of the broadcast, there will be four “just honored to be nominated” and one incredibly happy winner. This just seems (to me) like Hollywood piling on. Why? First, because they can; second, because all the nominees are older and white. I thought there were no good parts for older women in Hollywood? Oh those poor younger actresses!! Keep this up and nobody is going to take you seriously.

    Sent from my iPad

  27. coco says:

    Spoken like a true white person. I notice Deadline posting similar articles, how much did the Academy pay you guys for these damage control articles?

  28. Peggy says:

    This article could only be written by a white man. It’s premise is totally wrong. The anger over the snubbing of the director and actor of Selma has absolutely nothing to do with screeners or who saw Malifecent or American Sniper. It has EVERYTHING to do with the fact that the work of black artists is disregarded unless that work is absolutely positively supremely overwhelmingly the best that year. The fact that Selma was just as good or probably better (Rottentomatoes 99%) than all the other films didn’t matter. Blacks have to be doing it bigger and better everytime. And because the film 12 Years won last year and was considered one of the best, Academy members felt forced to vote for it. But they rationalized it because Brad Pitt was the white Savior. Selma had no white savior so less members felt guilted into voting for it. Hence the break between best picture and director and actor because there are more spots for Best Picture as you mentioned. No one is saying NO ONE voted for Selma. You know damn well there were at least 2 mediocre white male directors who got nominated. Who have just as few movies as Ava. And yes, they will continue to get work. Will Ava? You want to talk about the hiring but that’s just a small part of it. It’s all a part of the same hypocrisy. The directors branch and the DGA are notoriously anti-woman. Not because they don’t help women get hired although that’s part of it. But because when a woman does break through enough to be noticed by them, they purposely slap them down. And ONLY when it’s so obvious that they have to acknowledge someone they do. We know the game that’s being played and don’t you fucking tell us that WE’RE the ones who are bigots. At no time should that word come out of any white man’s mouth while addressing minorities who are fighting to be considered equally by Hollywood. Not trying to be special just equal. Can we get THAT far? When our mediocre artists can get nominated and win like YOURS???

    • Susan says:

      None of the nominees for Best Director are mediocre. And all of them have a much larger, more acclaimed body of work than DuVernay. That’s why she wasn’t nominated for the Oscar, or the DGA or the BAFTA.

    • faunevita says:

      Thank you, Peggy!! I 100% agree with your points!

    • Donna says:

      Um Brad Pit is one of the producers of Selma and advocated for the film’s lead to get nominations.

    • JSB says:

      What about YOUR business? This, as someone wrote, is a business. Like Intel, like Nike, like Geico, like GM. Stop getting a bee in your bonnet about the bloody Motion Picture Academy. If you don’t work in this business, don’t bother about it. Get your own house diverse with people of colour, women, gays, etc. How many jerks or heir-transparents or undeserving people get accolades and raises and gold watches in your business? Face it, the only business that rewards talent and achievement without regard to any other factors is PRO SPORTS. It is a cinch not everyone who is talented is successful, but no way in hell are you successful if you are NOT talented. Go watch the football game and have a glass of iced-tea!

    • Taylorjs13 says:

      You’re making a LOT of assumptions here.

      • Taylorjs13 says:

        More assumptions. I actually just set up a meeting for the last person I interviewed to meet with my district manager because I think he’ll be great for the job. Guess what? He’s black. You have heard what they say about assuming, right? Also, the word would be “except” not “accept”. Try again.

      • mla28ny says:

        I’m not assuming anything. 99% Rottentomatoes. No best director or actor. Films with 40 or 60% RT score, Best Director and/or actor. What’s the difference?? Age? Shoe Size? You are like one of those people when shown scientific evidence of racism like when white males with criminal records are hired over black males with college degrees many times over years, you point to any white who weren’t hired at that time of proof of no racism. And you’d walk into that business, look at all the whites working there with no blacks accept those sweeping the floor and declare everything to be fine. So ONE film about Blacks wins Best Picture over 88 years and everything is fine?

  29. Ronnie says:

    Part of the problem is that those promoting Selma should have sent the screener out to all guild members. It was not screened in time for the SAG nominations and sending it to only to the Academy may have felt like a slight to those in the other guilds. They should have also had more screenings for the guild members with Q & A’s and that might have helped. I did hear some guild members did the screener, but it didn’t arrive until the day of the deadline for nominations. And you have to remember that even if members get a screening copy, there’s no guarantee they’ll even look at it, no matter what the positive buzz.

  30. Mike says:

    Ugly people should have as many roles as attractive people!!!

    DISCRIMINATION!!!!

    • diana says:

      Ugly people actually have more roles than good looking people.
      It’s something that makes some others laugh and so its that way for some reason

  31. David K. says:

    Amen Brother….well said. :-)

  32. miller says:

    Spoken like a true white man.

  33. Mike says:

    Out of all the films eligible for the Best Picture race, 98% of “white films” were snubbed, while only 92% of “black films” were snubbed.

    TOO MUCH WHITE HATE!!!!

    (you can make any theory work)

  34. Me Forever says:

    Your logic is faulty. Such a prestigious event shouldn’t be left to the voting individual taste of an organization that is 94% white, male and over the age of 62. Therein lies the problem. Personal taste or not…they shouldn’t that kind of power.

    • Sheila B says:

      “Personal taste or not…they shouldn’t have that kind of power.” Um. It’s their organization. They started it. So you think that now – after decades of service to the industry – they should be booted because they’re old? Talk about age discrimination.

    • Taylorjs13 says:

      You’re insane if the amount of “power” given to the Academy bothers you that badly. Maybe point your focus to something a little bigger than that.

    • Michael Anthony says:

      Each year, members die and new members ate invited to join. In the last few years, the # of minority and female invitees are rising.

  35. Mike says:

    Why doesn’t anybody ever point out why YOUNG ACTORS are ignored, while YOUNG ACTRESSES are recognized?

    J Law
    Keisha Castle Hughes
    Hailee Steinfeld
    Q Wallis
    Abigail Breslin

    HJO – 1999

  36. Sherman O says:

    Timothy Spall got robbed. He should have been nominated for MR. TURNER. A true injustice.

  37. Mike says:

    I’m angry that Jake Gyllenhaul, Clint Eastwood, David Fincher, The Lego Movie, Jennifer, Angelina, and The Coen Brothers were all SNUBBED.

    But I guess nobody cares because they’re the WRONG RACE!

    • mla28ny says:

      See in your STUPID mind that makes sense to you. 1 movie about black people, 12 Years a Slave wins best picture in 88 years and the next year another film about blacks is barely recognized although it is rated above most of all the white movies and YOU DON’T SEE A PROBLEM WITH THAT? Once every 100 years for blacks to be recognized is MORE THAN ENOUGH for you? Right?

      • JSB says:

        mia28ny – you mentioned “Rotten Tomatoes” earlier – the people in the audience do not vote for these awards which, by the way, are NOT prestigious as someone else here claimed. If you do not read about them, or watch shows about them, they matter not one bit. “Rotten Tomatoes” shows audiences’ and film critics’ responses. Those are factored into Critics’ awards, of which there are many, in most cities and town around the country and world, and into the People’s Choice awards. Please refer to your own business before ranting about this one.

    • Jim says:

      What race is the Lego Movie? Merit is one thing but if we are discussing race, there were many Whites nominated-so there’s no reason to complain on that basis.

      • Mike says:

        I guess I shouldn’t have included The Lego Movie, but Phil Lord and his directing partner (I forget his name) are white. Why aren’t we discussing white nominees who were also snubbed?

  38. Justice Denied Again says:

    What I want to know is why Tim Gray is evoking the name of the Producer’s Guild to discuss why the voting Academy which is comprised of 94% white people of whom 77% are men, to this debate. It makes no sense!?! He’s telling us about the guild being 6000 members of which half are women. SOoooooooooooooo? What about the Oscar voting Academy? 94% white? 77% male? How about a real article on the real facts? The only thing I will agree on in this article is that white men vote on their tastes and not ever on real substance. That explains why you see so much filth and depravity being rewarded over the past 2 decades.

    • Jim says:

      I agree they should be discussed when comparing the merits of the people and films nominated. Here, Gray was addressing the diversity issue.

  39. Welcome to a column of reason. Of course, if you disagree, it’s part of a conspiracy… because freedom of choice and having preferences is always racist or misogynistic these days, now isn’t it? I suppose our ultimate trickle down theory will be on the playgrounds of our primary schools when you need a committee to pick the kids on your team for sports and ensure there is some diversity there instead of just the kids you happen to like. Maybe the NFL should make some last minute changes for the Super Bowl and ensure there is a Yemenese woman in a burqa at least at back up quarterback?

  40. GKN says:

    Good try, Mr. Gray – though obviously none of the commenters below read the article or cared to understand it.

    Half the Producer’s Guild are women? This is interesting if hard to believe, but it’s effect on Academy voting, if any, is not clear – since the media is saying more than 90% of the Academy voters are white males. What does the Producer’s Guild have to do with that? The connection’s somewhat hazy.

    • timgray2013 says:

      I’m saying that if half the population is women, and half the membership of the PGA is women, you would think that women would have more producing jobs. But, as the top 10 box-office indicates, that’s not true. Women are under-represented.

  41. Kevin says:

    If you don’t like what mainstream Hollywood is doing, do something else. Go independent, start your own cable channel, start your own production company. The idea that all professions must mirror the make-up of society is patently absurd. There are more female nurses than male nurses. Should nursing schools be forced to admit 50% males? There are more female nuns than male nuns. Should convents be forced to allow 50% males? There are more female teachers than male teachers. Should schools be force to hire 50% males? This is still a free country. If you don’t like it, don’t buy it. If you think you can do better, then do it. Quit the incessant sniveling and whining. It is b.s..

  42. JSB says:

    Most people in this industry don’t even hit their stride till their 40’s, what are all these non-industry gasbags whining about? Actors alone have the arbitrary fortune to burst through in their 20’s and 30’s, but this is less true for sound editors, makeup artists, cinematographers, production designers, etc. These awards are the gold watch rewards for this particular industry’s year-end honours.

  43. Jennifer Zed says:

    What I want to know though is how does a picture get nominated for Best Picture and the actor who was in every scene and the director who is responsible for this best picture don’t? Take out the lead actor and the director and how do you still have a best picture nomination?

    • danler says:

      I understand tour logic, but Foxcather did ended up nominated for best actor, best supporting actor, best director and best screenplay, and it didn’t get nominated for best picture.

      • Jennifer Zed says:

        But that makes more sense: the film is excellent in these particular areas, but as a whole, not deserving of a best picture nomination. In this case, the implication is that as a whole, the film is a best picture contender, but the integral parts that would justify a best picture nomination aren’t themselves nominated.

    • timgray2013 says:

      I hear your logic, but as I said in the story, the best picture race has eight nominations. There are only five in the actor and director categories. We will never know, but I suspect that if those categories had more slots, Ava DuVernay, David Oyelowo and others would have been nominated.

      • Mike says:

        No. It’s more like “you got the job because you earned it” (Truth: Because you’re Black or a woman)

      • Jennifer Zed says:

        I’m sure that’s what women and minorities hear all the time when they’re trying to get hired in these positions. Oh, you were so close but just missed the mark.

  44. Sad Sad Sad Sad World says:

    Old white guy Tim Gray debates the meaningless details of Oscar nomations, pointing out that prior iterations of the awards ceremony have been “diverse” dating back to 1998 because they often include 1 token racial / ethnic minority. This guy is the definition of out of touch.

  45. Sydney says:

    Ah, yes. Why blame the Academy for their nominations when we can blame all the people that weren’t nominated and have nothing to do with the nominations instead. I mean really, how could they not pick white men over literally any other type of person. Silly people, it’s everyone else’s fault!

  46. jhs39 says:

    It’s well known that it’s hard for movies that premier at the end of December to get Oscar nominations now since the academy moved the ceremony and voting deadlines up. A lot of people probably voted for Selma for best picture without seeing it based on reviews since members can vote for more than 5 films for best picture.

  47. PETER JAY says:

    It’s show business! A business. Not an affirmative action program! This is the USA. If women or anybody want success, then they should work for it. If the public doesn’t want to see more so called minorities in movies or women in movies, that’s what the buying public wants. You can’t and shouldn’t force on the free, buying public what they don’t want. You shouldn’t tell the public what they have to see or buy. This is a free country so stop complaining. How would you whining women like to be in a Muslim country? Why aren’t you liberals complaining about how women are treated under Islam?

    • Jim says:

      “If women or anybody want success, then they should work for it.”

      Do you believe that women need to work harder in the industry?

      I agree with hard work as an ethic. That said, the advice we received during media arts instruction was that we were entering a business in which success depended in no small way on relationships. And that’s often where the problem lies. Even if you are independent, one has to get their work in front of people who can make something happen, and those circles can be fairly exclusive.

    • Glenn C. says:

      Agree. It’s rudicuoius. Always the good ole race card!!!!

    • Bob C. says:

      Peter Jay, you are 100% right!

  48. I agree. This is what I’ve been saying all along. Everyone who was in or made a movie can’t be nominated, only a small number. It is the Academy Award, it is THEIR award, they vote on it & decide, not the public or the media. Got it? Good!

  49. Sal U. Lloyd says:

    ??? Why do you want Sharpton after insulting a whole race? Are you closet interracial gay or just projecting?

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