George R.R. Martin: ‘Walter White is a Bigger Monster Than Anyone in Westeros’

George R.R. Martin: 'Walter White is

Martin is taking notes from 'Breaking Bad,' so basically we're all doomed

The man who helped destroy your emotional well-being with “Game of Throne’s” “Red Wedding” apparently watched “Breaking Bad’s” “Ozymandius” episode over the weekend and though to himself, Well played, sir. I shall return volley.

Just kidding, he was way more colloquial. But still.

George R.R. Martin, the scribe behind “A Song of Ice and Fire” and exec producer of HBO’s “Game of Thrones,” took to his Livejournal — so fantastic that he has a Livejournal, right? — to discuss the Emmys, but more importantly, how Walter White stacks up against the blood-thirsty folk wearing period clothes in the world of “Game of Thrones.”

“Amazing episode last night,” GRRM said in his blog post, referencing Sunday’s brutal seg of “Breaking Bad.” “Talk about a gut punch.”

He continued: “Walter White is a bigger monster than anyone in Westeros. (I need to do something about that.)”

Wait, what?! No!

No, no, no.

Not so much because no one can be worse than Walter White, but more because I don’t think the collective blood pressure of the American television audience can handle so much stress. After all, this is how people reacted to the TV version of GRRM’s “Red Wedding”:

Blend that with the devastation from “Ozymandius” and people are liable to pass out in front of the televisions.

Other highlights from GRRM’s blog post include the writer stating that while “Game of Thrones” could “upset” “Breaking Bad” for this year’s best drama Emmy, “There’s no way in hell that anyone is going to defeat ‘Breaking Bad’ next year, when their last season is the one in contention.”

For what it’s worth, Martin’s “current mood” while writing this post on LJ was “thoughtful,” which really means the wheels are turning in his head for doom and destruction within Westeros. Thanks Bryan Cranston, thanks Vince Gilligan, thanks everyone for the stressful TV, and see you at the Emmys.

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  1. Dave Granger says:

    Worse than Gregor Clegane or Ramsay Bolton? I think that’s an exaggeration of sorts.

  2. Eric says:

    People reacted the way they did when watching red wedding because it was violent, and the what people thought to be main characters are dying left and right. Breaking Bad topped that with just 1 death (2 if you’re counting Gomez) and not a lot of blood. It’s good that George acknowledge that; maybe this will give him some inspiration to be careful with the way he treats his character. The “anyone can die” attitude will only make readers less attached to the characters, and belittle the impact when it happens.

  3. Walter White is in fact NOT as bad. There was a pivotal scene after Walter had taken Holly when he was holding her and she kept saying “mamma, m-mamma.” In my view, it was at that point realized what he had become. He then called Schuyler and asked her if she were alone. (Of course cops were there — he is a conniving, manipulative, brilliant man). He then broke character and verbally abused her for minutes, admitting to everything, owning up to the murder of Hank, who hours before he tried to save by giving up his 80mm fortuen, and exonerating her from her any involvement with him by implying that his threats to hurt her and the children were what kept her complicit. During that phone call, he was crying because he was forfeiting everything he had worked so hard to keep: his family. He was destroying his reputation once and for all in the eyes of his son by appearing to be not only a drug lord, but also an abusive man. Schulyer got it. She understood what he was doing and played her role by saying, “I’m sorry.” Like she was a Stepford wife. Like she was an imbecile. She had been complicit with him for far too long. He was giving her an out, and she took it.

    This was Walter’s ultimate sacrifice. I bet he’ll get the money to his family somehow. He is and has always been a complex character, balancing his massive pride with his committment to family. His pride destroys him, but with his last action, in my view, he attempts to save his family.

    • Eric says:

      Walter didn’t have any problem screwing up other people’s family, nor his own – to an extent. He’s manipulated his wife and his brother in law to further his gain, and he downright refused to quit cooking meth until he discovered his cancer is back. Though I would not argue that Walt has realized that everything that happened, he brought it upon himself – that’s why he decided to call Skyler and tried to spare his family, because he understood at last that everything was his fault. He is still a monster, but will he stay as one? Probably. He did choose to disappear than coming forward to clean up his mess, choosing to take the cowardly option and disappear, destroying any chance of reconciliation once and for all. (Though it can be argued that he’s only got a few month to live it would not have been possible for his family to reconcile, which might have influenced his decision)

  4. D'Daquan™ says:

    And know we knows.. why Klint Westwood turned down tha show. Az Dirty Harre Krishna…

  5. Bob says:

    Didn’t the Mountain rape hundreds and kill thousands, including babies?

    • Alex says:

      Yea Gregor is much worse, and much less apologetic.

      • Eric says:

        When George talks about Walter White being a bigger monster, he is not referring to what his characters do – anyone in westero has likely to kill at least one or two people in their lives. The point is that Walt managed to do these things, found justifications behind his actions, and manipulated everyone (including a good portion of the audience) that he is inherently good, that he’s a good man forced to do bad things due to his condition. He places family above everything else, but have no problem seeing someone else’s family gets torn apart. He take advantage of other’s emotions – including his own wife and family whom he was supposed to value above everything else – and use them to further his gain. The notion that he did everything for his family was downright absurd. Had his cancer not come back he would still be cooking meth. The worse of Walt’s crime is how he manages to corrupt everything and everyone he comes into contact with. Gregor Clegene kill them, but he was still a manageable figure. He allows the Lannisters to lord over him. Ramsay Bolton killed his half brother, sure, but apart from some low cunning, he is but a simpleton in his father’s eyes, with no discretion about his business and no regard for his reputation.

        Walt is capable of killing, manipulating people while maintaining a visage of humanity, which rubs off on his wife and colleague, turning them to into amoral monsters much like himself, and that’s what makes him such a abomination. The fact that he is living in an educated society unlike Westero, where killing and raping are the everyday norm, only makes his true character so much darker.

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